Sample Surveys & survey templates.

On this page you can access some sample surveys for timber & GRP. You can also download a section of a FREE survey template for wood or GRP (both different). If you would like a copy of the full template then just email me & I will email you the full template FREE OF CHARGE. You can use this to help carry out a structured look inspection of your own or perhaps your next vessel before employing a professional surveyor.

These are large files & may take a little time to download so try to be patient. Click on the heading.

 

Timber survey sample on a late build Hillyard

 

GRP survey sample (this one A Moody 376)

 

Survey template taster GRP

 

Seafish Under 7m fishing vessel inspection


Survey template taster for timber

 

Questions & Answers

 

Main differences between insurance & purchase surveys. .click to unfold
As a generalisation, there is not a great deal of difference in the way the vessel is inspected, the main difference is in the amount of detail reported.  If you are the purchaser of a vessel it is helpful to know as much as possible regarding every part of the structure as is possible this includes every scratch and mark of any consequence on the gelcoat and general cosmetic condition.  As the owner of a vessel the majority of those superficial areas are of no consequence to either the owner or the insurer.  Serious structural faults would be highlighted in both particular cases but in insurance inspection the report is generally less focused on non essentials.

 

 

What types of Survey are available? .click to unfold
As an owner or potential owner of the vessel then, you can have any part of the vessel inspected as you choose. There is no obligation to have a minimum or maximum amount of structure inspected.. You may only want an opinion on issues you have noted yourself, either internally or externally. Obviously this can be a cost effective way to decide whether or not to pursue a vessel. Sometimes the cost of this can be taken off any subsequent full survey. The only additional cost would be the extra journey. Discuss this with me over the phone or Email initially.

 

 

How soon after the inspection will I receive the report? click to unfold
Generally, a report will be available for early reading within 24 to 36 hours, this is often an Email draft copy if an e-mail address is available.  The completed Email version would follow within 2 to 3 working days.

 

 

If there is information in the report that I do not understand what can I do? click to unfold
One of the reasons to produce a draft report is so that an early viewing of what the survey in its completed form will contain with regard to the vessel's condition.  At that time, the client can go through that draft report and highlight areas that require further clarification or description.  This allows some changes of text where appropriate to suit the particular client.

 

 

Once a fault is detailed in the report what happens next?.click to unfold
In virtually all cases where ever any fault no matter how minor, is noted there will always be a comprehensive description of how to repair or reinstate the area and, at the end of the report is a comprehensive section on all aspects of repair, maintenance, osmosis, electrolysis and much more.  Working as a shipwright for both timber and grp vessels the experience gained in repairing such vessels is passed on to any client who may be interested.

 

 

How do I prioritise faults noted in the report ? .click to unfold
Part of the duty when compiling the report is to prioritise these areas specifically for you and, they are broken into three major star groups 
*** requiring immediate attention, 
** will require some attention not necessarily today,
 * not particularly important but would be of benefit at some time

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Does it matter if the vessel is afloat or ashore? click to unfold
Most insurance surveys will require the vessel to be ashore even if it is only lifted out of the water temporarily for inspection.  Some insurance companies will accept a limited inspection if done afloat but, if it is for pre-purchase then, you are strongly advised to have the vessel ashore for inspection.

 

When can moisture readings be taken on GRP click to unfold
This can vary enormously, it is possible that some vessels will be lifted from the water and within a very short time have moisture meter readings that are particularly low.  Low readings such as that are obviously quite reliable as, the readings can only get lower after time ashore.  However, this is not the common scenario, most vessels will have high readings immediately following lift out and, when a vessel is lifted in the slings by boatyard there is often pressure of time regarding boatyard schedules to get the vessel back in the water.  These higher readings taken at that time will be almost worthless and certainly unreliable.  A period of 24 hours ashore will give a much more reliable assessment of what residual readings may be as, the majority of physical drying out of water takes place in the first 24 hours, this gradually slows down and any changes after 24 hours are much less marked.  If it is absolutely imperative for accuracy of moisture meter readings then, if at all possible the vessel should have been ashore for a minimum of two or three days prior to survey.  However, this is not always practical and will always be more expensive for the buyer.

 

Once the vessel is out of the water click to unfold

Timber vessels have their own particular method of inspection.  There is no absolute need for these to be dried after lifting out but, the majority of timber vessels will have fastenings along the  garboard plank (the first plank up from the keel) and hood ends (hood ends are the ends of the plank attached to the bow and stern of the vessel) these fastenings are important and very often overlooked for many decades. pressure claening Hillyar prior to survey In the course of survey at least two or three of these fastenings would be found and removed for checking.  However, specific permission has to be obtained for this from either the broker or the owner as, occasionally, these screws will fail upon removal because of corrosion or lack of previous inspection and, with regard to carrying out any type of survey, one of the obligations of the surveyor is to minimise, or cause no damage whatsoever.  Discovering corroded screws could be interpreted as causing damage hence the requirement for permission.  Keelbolts will not be removed as this can be a prolonged job beyond the scope of the survey but, advice will be given in the survey relevant to the vessel.

 

What happens now? .click to unfold

Once the survey has been completed and sent out to you for your next job is to go through the survey at least twice and get the feeling for what the surveyor has told you about the vessel . Where it is obvious some items that have been unexpected have been encountered then, firstly you must decide whether or not you will still be interested purchasing the vessel . It is not generally a good idea to attempt to renegotiate the price for items that you were already aware of such as condition of upholstery , cosmetic condition etc. However, where negotiation is acceptable, is on those items where you were completely unaware of the extent of the existence of something that has been found . In some cases it may be that you are no longer interested in the vessel that has major constructional faults , in other cases, it is usually a question of getting quotes for those areas and sitting down with the broker, or owner and discussing these items.

Generally, it is unlikely you will get the full cost of these items and areas such as possible limited blistering and high moisture meter readings etc. occasionally have to be expected to degree as part of the consequence of purchasing a vessel of a certain age therefore, it is usual to negotiate a partial contribution instead of a full contribution .

Do not forget that many vessels will require new rigging if it is stainless steel and in excess of 10 years of age and, this can be quite expensive on a moderate size vessel so again, you might have expected to be able to claim the full cost of the new rigging but certainly a large contribution toward it . Again, bear in mind that if the rigging is approaching 10 or 11 years of age, then you will have to purchase new rigging in your period of ownership .

 

If the answer is not here then call me & ask the question.

 

 

Watermouth, North Devon near Combe Martin

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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